Dénia had an outstanding debt with caravan tourism, since for years we maintained a controversial unjust law, as admitted by the City Council a few months ago. Now, shortly after its elimination, the city seems to have reconciled with these visitors, although with certain frictions that have to be ironed out.
Last November, the councilor for Citizen Protection, Javier Scotto, announced that an old prohibition that prevented caravans from parking in the car parks of the beaches. This turned Dénia into a black spot for this type of tourism, since its regulations did not understand that these vehicles were just that, vehicles, and not just homes. It prevented them from making use of car parks, assuming that their owners would use them for camping, despite the fact that they can also be used to move around like any car or motorcycle.
During the plenary session of that month, the elimination was approved and, since then, the caravans can use the parking areas on the beaches, although it is still prohibited to spend the night in those places enabled only for parking.
A couple of months later you can already see the great reception of this measure, because this weekend dozens of caravans have taken over several beaches in Dénia. The trampoline and Punta del Raset They have been the ones that have received the most visitors, filling the parking spaces to spend a day at the beach. And some, yes, even at night.
Pending tasks for the high season
Although the rule is clear, some caravan owners have taken advantage of the new situation to spend the night on the front line. Similarly, in the case of the beach of Les Rotes, some of these vehicles occupied areas not available for parking, which has generated criticism among the residents, who are concerned above all about the visual impact that this entails in a space as limited as that of El Trampolí.
It is only February, so it is expected that the interest of caravan tourism in Dénia will continue to grow in the coming months. And even more so with the arrival of the high season, although it remains to be seen how it will coexist with the existing one to date, seeing how small the car parks are with these new visitors.
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Caravans in the parking lot of Punta del Raset 07
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Caravans in the parking lot of Punta del Raset 06
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Caravans in the parking lot of Punta del Raset 04
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Caravans in the parking lot of Punta del Raset 03
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Caravans in the parking lot of Punta del Raset 02
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Caravans in the parking lot of Punta del Raset 01
In El Verger, Sorts de Mar beach, Carrer del Riu Cervor there have been caravans parked in the front row since NOVEMBER. No local police control.
The hurdle to the side full of excrement. Night patrols where are you?
The surroundings of the Raset beach, wherever there is a tamarisk to hide behind, leave human poop with toilet paper rolling around. They will not all be, of course, there are inciives everywhere. These do it I go premeditated, it's not a casual squeeze. Those of us who have a dog go with bags (all of us), why not them?
Everyone, everyone?
But you also have to collect, not just carry bags
Those of us who carry bags use them for what they are. But it is true that not everyone wears them.
What you have to be clear about is that they will not be those of the motorhomes, since they have a bathroom and it is clear that you are not going to shit outdoors. The dirt is generated by cars and pedestrians who are not prepared to spend a day in the beach or where they relieve themselves? In a bar, in a bag and they take it away….
Somewhere else to spend my money, period. They have changed the law because they were charged with various crimes, because if they ban motorhomes, they ban cars. A city council does not have the power to decide what type of vehicle it parks based on what the councilor on duty considers better or worse.
Here the important thing is to criminalize the most ecological tourist that exists with generalizations and fake news.
Unfortunate about this garrulous town and its passers-by.
Camping , overnight , settling in with a vehicle is prohibited . That is not enforced by the city council (which must have unspeakable debts with someone who does not explain the author who has perpetrated this little article).
The walkers are many more than the campers. Free camping was abolished years ago. There are areas for it.
The most ecological tourist that exists, Gaston? The campers are transported by donkeys or horses? Do the owners themselves drag them? Or do they use fuel? They take over the first lines, blocking the way for the rest of the people and also become aggressive defending the space they have colonized. In France it is absolutely forbidden to do what they do. Is that why they come to Spain in case they are lucky? Could it be that the French also fall within the disqualifying insults that you add at the end of your comment?
They have no more right to go in a motorhome. They have to comply with the law. It is not prohibited by law to obstruct anyone's views with a vehicle that complies with countless regulations, with users who are mostly ecologists (I generalize but in a positive way), respect the environment and pollute much less than Charo, Paco and their loud music on the beach to spend Sunday with your fridge, the chairs, the tables and the dog that does nothing. What I said before, you need to be garrulous to complain. Of course I'm not referring to the unfortunates who litter, discharge water where it shouldn't and smoke joints.
Are you insulting again? Garrulous? So much text to place the insult in the middle? That is the argument that you exhibit, the insult and the disqualifications? This is how you defend “tourism that respects the environment and blah, blah, blah… there is nothing respectful about it, neither you nor them. It would be interesting to see how you would defend the space of your Camper when another camper got too close to you
adjective masculine and feminine noun
COLLOQUIAL•SPAIN
[person] Who behaves in a rude, coarse or rude manner.
I have not insulted anyone.
Many mornings I dedicate myself to cleaning the garbage that the sea brings and I take it to a clean point.
I stand by everything I have said.
You cannot pretend to prohibit what cannot be prohibited.
Someone to take out an eye, takes out both.
That the problem is not that.
That this source of wealth for local tourism should not be eliminated.
That you, whether Charo or Paco, have no rights other than those
when you arrived, senor dominguero, they were there.
That they are not going to prohibit staying overnight because it is legal and they do not have powers.
That the tricksters do not know how to identify the problem.
By the way, my motorhome is not mine, it is for rent.
Great, the neighbor xabia, could learn from this decision, they fine you in a parking area (in the Port of xabia, on the gravel beach), they discriminate against motorhomes compared to cars, I parked my motorhome and my car at the side and they gave me a 100 euro fine, on top of that they deceived me, because I went to the municipal police who had fined me and they told me not to worry, that they would allege that I was well parked and the lack of size restrictions would cancel it, well no, they rejected my allegation and I had to pay, I think this maneuver made me feel worse than the fine itself
Well, you know how to collapse Denia lacks people. Next time, in addition to the car and the motorhome, you can add two trailers, one for motorcycles and the other to accommodate guests. You can charge them for the stay and the displacement. Don't say I don't give you ideas. You will surely find fast parking a few meters from the seashore.
The City Council does not give a right. We have gone from an absolute ban to a total rampage. This cannot be allowed under any circumstances.
It is unfortunate every weekend to go for a walk through the broken and not be able to enjoy the views of the sea until you reach the pedestrian walkway (from Helios to Pegolí and from El Trampolí to Sendra) all full of motorhomes, vans, campers with the advances, tables and chairs outside as if it were a camping site. I do not understand why they allow this disrespect towards those who live on the front line or walk through it. Garbage bags, food scraps, gray water emptying, everything is being allowed and those of us who live here and want to enjoy the walk with sea views... why are we not taken into account?
I hope that this news will serve to change the permits and in some way people who seek a quiet and simple life benefit from our walks with sea views and not camping vehicles that are not parked! Let them go to the marinas where there is access and they do not cover the views but in the broken ones that prohibit it.
Of course, what you would like would be to have a house on the beachfront for your peace of mind. That is, if your house wouldn't bother others with the landscape. The question is not to prohibit but to regulate, and that the city councils enforce the rules. Do not make the just pay for sinners
Parking vehicles of that size or trucks or caravans spoils the landscape, the
Better than we have in Denia the pedestrians. camping is
Illegal and the city council and the local police do nothing.
Go to the Marines? Is that your solution? Well, look, donate your apartment to an NGO and go to Pego. Carabanas won't bother you there.
Here we can see the civic status of some of the residents of Les Rotes. You have to regulate and period.
This is not allowed in France. and I know .
My husband is French and I have lived in France. That's what the camps are for.
I find this terrible.
! Finally someone telling the truth! Thanks! That later they come here and start complaining loudly about "how backward Spain is" when in their countries it is directly prohibited to do so.
They pay taxes like all of us and give a lot of direct and indirect work to
Do they pay taxes for parking and camping in places that are not authorized and therefore prohibited? They do not employ anyone, perhaps only the companies that manufacture the vehicles and the dealers that sell them. Nothing more.
Because of the way you express yourself, you own a campsite because if you don't, I don't understand how to talk about something I don't know.
It is unfortunate every weekend to go for a walk through the broken and not be able to enjoy the views of the sea until you reach the pedestrian walkway (from Helios to Pegolí and from El Trampolí to Sendra) all full of motorhomes, vans, campers with the advances, tables and chairs outside as if it were a camping site. I do not understand why they allow this disrespect towards those who live on the front line or walk through it. Garbage bags, food scraps, gray water emptying, everything is being allowed and those of us who live here and want to enjoy the walk with sea views... why are we not taken into account?
I hope that this news will serve to change the permits and in some way people who seek a quiet and simple life benefit from our walks with sea views and not camping vehicles that are not parked!
Every day I walk through the broken and every day I have caravans covering the views along the front line, I see garbage bags thrown where the caravans were. It is intolerable and will go further if it is not stopped. One thing is that they park in the marinas far from the shore since the beach is wide and the views are not blocked by walkers, but in Las Rotas their access should be prohibited.
From the photos I see that they have directly camped, chairs set up outside, etc. One thing is to park and another to camp. Shake hands with them and they'll rip your arm off and whatever else they catch. What does the City Council do about it? Nothing. Wait for the summer when their "squatting" taking over the accesses and parking lots for the beaches supposes a wall for the rest of the people. Because they will also defend it as their own. parasites
It is easier to prohibit than to manage well.
False myth that motorhome owners do not spend money, shops, restaurants, etc… they benefit a lot.
Overnight places must be set up just as car parks have been set up and built, if necessary with reasonable rates for overnight stays.
We must find a balance.
The incivility issue is already a problem that we have as a society.
There are dirty dog owners and many others who don't, there are uncivil motorhome owners and many others who don't.
Let us punish those who do not comply and seek solutions.
This weekend I have had a local party, two couples, with our fires we have traveled 4 days:
Morella, Peñíscola, Benicassim, Valencia, El Palmar, Montejanos, Onda.
We have slept in authorized municipal areas.
We have eaten at restaurants in Morella, Valencia, Onda and Paella in El Palmar.
Shopping for clothes in Valencia.
Snacks, coffees, shopping for typical sweets and souvenirs.
Boat trip through the Albufera, Refuel in Montejanos.
That we do not spend they say.
There is an archaic vision of this type of tourism, as there was a few years ago of camping.
Take advantage of the opportunity that this type of tourism offers you.
Totally agree. Europe has enabled facilities and is aware of the reality that it has come to stay. Instead of giving an opinion without knowing, let's look for constructive solutions.
Bermúdez, come on, you have a caravan or a Campervan and you have felt identified with my comment. Well very good. But you know perfectly well that there is already legislation and enabled spaces, so now do not come justifying or explaining your adventurous weekend. Complete and period.
In the world of motorhomes there is everything. Therefore, car parks must be regulated, controlled and prevent camping (preventing overnight is illegal when you are well parked on the wheels of the vehicle, without side windows, awnings, etc. open). And if you don't want "invasion" of motorhomes, the municipality and/or the private initiative should promote service and overnight areas that Dénia lacks.
Incomprehensible! La première ligne de mer doit laisser le plus large panorama. That the camping cars et caravans station in deuxième ligne.
How is it done in France? Explain to us please and in Spanish if you would be so kind.
He says that he loves Spain and that «Spain is different»
Hahaha. France too “c'est diférent” is directly prohibited there, that's why they come here, then they start crying here because there in their country they obey and remain silent. Not only the French but also the rest of the nationalities. Look at the license plates of the vehicles.
The city council does not want more to be built in denia but instead attracts seedy caravan tourism that does not leave even 1 euro to denia and only dirty our beaches, it is paradoxical
Long live the politicians lol
crappy ??? How lousy is envy…there are motorhomes that are worth more than a flat…sir…and.and.the pouring water…everything is a lie…and yeah, we leave money…because we buy and eat…and we go to terraces….
Ahhh Pepi "there are motorhomes that are worth more than a flat" so what? Do we have to kneel and pay homage to them for that? Do it yourself, you know where they are, some canapés and a bottle of cava would also be a detail to take when you see a caravan more expensive than yours. But if they are so abundant, what problem do they have in paying for a campsite enabled for them? What scratches right?
If you dock your yacht in the port of Denia, and eat food bought in a supermarket, is it quality tourism? And if I take my motorhome to Denia and have dinner in a restaurant, is it cheap tourism? I think that Spain is very big, with regulation, there is room for everyone.
To moor a boat/yacht there is a very strict regulation in addition to paying for that mooring and having to present to the captain the documentation of all the people who are on board. Do you think that they arrive, enter and moor in the port in any way and in any site? Well no. It is strictly regulated. Look for the information if you are interested but do not compare because there is no possible comparison. As for the Regulation for motorhomes and campers, it also exists and is perfectly detailed. Look for it too.
You really are crappy and also bitter and sad. It's a shame that you have to spend the money on medicine